Posts by THE GLADIATOR

There have recently been so many threads and arguments between atheists and believers. The idea that people are divided neatly into these two camps is absurd. There are many alternative positions but desire to divide people has overlooked so many other possibilities.

We are all born the same and we all die. What goes on in our head in between is of little consequence. We are not defined by our beliefs but by our deeds. This is the truth taught by Christ, Buddha, Ghandi, and moderate people who feel no need to latch on a guru.

Beneath this smoke screen of superiority in belief systems, an emotional battle is being played out. The need to be proved right, vindicated, validated, exonerated and exalted, shines through clearly. Anger and unexpressed emotion is being the driving force behind most threads.

The truth is that no one has a god-dam clue why we exist on this tiny planet in the middle of nowhere, which happens to be the middle of everywhere. We have come from nowhere and are going nowhere. We simply exist and there may be no point to our existence except the moment we are living. It has been thus for millions of years.

Peace, and may your gods or philosophy go with you and get you through the night. If you are lucky enough to wake up tomorrow and live through another day you will have discovered the truth of your existence. If you are fortunate enough to have someone who loves you and wants to share their life with you, you need nothing more.

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What is with abusive atheists?

by Fernando in

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friends

sorry folks, i know the "candace conti case" is where all our time attention should be for now.

i just had this much less important issue on my heart and wanted to make a quick note of it, as i am struggling with remembering all the details as clearly afterward.. although i am a non-religious believer and simple follower of jesus, i have had some constructive interaction with atheists and agnostics on jwn.

i do enjoy learning more about their perspective.

THE GLADIATOR

Regarding the opening post, Christians believe they represent Christ, so they have to act in a way that proves they are moved by Christ’s spirit. On the other hand atheists only represent themselves and do not have beliefs that need to be defended. The only consideration is what others on the board may think of them personally, if they are rude and offensive.

Attacking a Christian’s faith strengthens it. Opposition is expected and becomes further proof that they have truth. It is the least effective way of encouraging Christians or Jehovah's Witnesses to consider non-believers views.

At the end of the day we all choose to be here. If we don’t like a person’s comments we can choose to ignore them, respond in a polite way, or tell them to go to hell. No one is pulling our strings, we all have a choice. Me-thinks that many here enjoy heated debates and mud slinging. I have done my share of that in my time.

I guess we calm down once we have vented our rage and discharged the strong emotions that are a necessary part of moving on. This board provides an invaluable service as a place to work out our emotion. We owe Simon a huge thank you.

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Gen.3;24 places the cherubim, and A flaming sword to guard, why?

by jam in

ok , why was it necessary for god to places a arm cherubim.

to guard the way to the tree of life?

adam and eve had.

THE GLADIATOR

“OK , Why was it necessary for God to places A arm cherubim to guard the way to the tree of life?”

Like all good fairy stories there has to be surreal elements that encourage the reader to believe that anything is possible. Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, War of the Worlds and so on. I enjoy a good magical fantasy as much as any cherubim. As long as it doesn’t diminish my ability to distinguish fiction from reality.

The General Who Became A Slave.The Slave Who Became A Gladiator. The Gladiator Who Defied An Empire.

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why jesus never tempted with sex?

by criticalwitness in

i mean really whats the number one reason a dub gets kicked out the org?

one of stongest natural desires and he was supposed to be a full fledged human all desires and everything i mean satan tempted him with food but no sexual pleasure?

and was he attracted to women?

THE GLADIATOR

This is all rather bizarre. Sexual desire is the strongest desire humans have, next to eating. Humans depend upon sex to keep their race going. Every mammal on the planet shares the same template for survival. The guy who is supposed to have made every creature on earth, comes here to show us how we would be living our lives if we were perfect.

The big test he must pass, is can he act in a way that denies his strongest desire, which at the same time ensures that no perfect human can ever again be born through him. He must avoid all the beautiful women in the world that he created, that would not be here if people had not had sex. With all his faults, sinful Adam did at least sire some offspring. Instead, he smashes up some tables in the temple and roughs up a few traders. The Romans get wind of his unruly behaviour and have him tortured to death.

Big shot dies at age 33, without ever writing a single word that has been preserved for the benefit of mankind. Successful life or what?

The gladiator - telling it like it is.

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Why did Lazarus Pay for his sins twice?

by criticalwitness in

according to j dub doc the wages sins pays is death meaning to them death covers your debt of sin when lazarus died did he not pay his debt?

so when jesus resctd him why did he die again?

when jesus brought him back did he creat or recreat an imperfect being on the sinful road to destruction?

THE GLADIATOR

You could go mad thinking about it.

Nevertheless, if you live twice you have to die twice - unless you are James Bond.

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Who The Heck Is Sparlock?

by minimus in

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friends

i must admit, i have no idea who sparlock is.

can someone explain what the fuss is all about?.

thank you..

THE GLADIATOR

The video is sick! The kid was just having fun with a harmless plastic toy and exercising his imagination. Kids play with dragons, talking animals and cartoon characters. The manipulative way in which his mother pressured him in to believing that his purpose in life was to please her imaginary Jehovah is shameful.

Did it not occur to the Watchtower Society, that talk of Jehovah and Satan is magical belief. Interestingly the mother and son in the video were also imaginary plastic toys, magical talking and appearing to be humans. The Watchtower Society should be kept away from children.

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How the Shrinking of the Awake! has Affected Many!

by God_Delusion in

the watchtower society never thinks things through.

the halving of the awake!

magazine has had an adverse affect on many.. http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/awake-bloopers/awake-magazine-cut-to-16-pages/.

THE GLADIATOR

James - Reading the bible from cover to cover is easy for me.

Since I removes all the nonsense, all I am left with is Ecclesiastes and the cover.

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What was the weirdest thing ever said to you as a JW?

by falseprophet in

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i was about 8-10 years old and twice i had people tell me that i should not pioneer but to go to bethel because i "was governing body material".. one was a co and another a do.. i didn't even believe in god, never have so that makes it weird!.

what wierd things were told?.

THE GLADIATOR

I always asked too many questions and continued to ask the Elders questions about certain anomalies. They advised me that I was developing a ‘spirit of independence.’ I expected everything to add up and make sense, after all this was ‘the truth’ – wasn’t it?

One senior brother of fifty years standing explained that the most important thing in the organization and in each congregation was unity. It did not matter whether what we believed was accurate, so long as we all believed the same.

This was only one of the many weird things said to me. If they were all recorded, the whole world could not contain them.

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why jesus never tempted with sex?

by criticalwitness in

i mean really whats the number one reason a dub gets kicked out the org?

one of stongest natural desires and he was supposed to be a full fledged human all desires and everything i mean satan tempted him with food but no sexual pleasure?

and was he attracted to women?

THE GLADIATOR

It's true that Jesus may well have married as was the Jewish tradition.

On the other hand, if all things really did come into existence by Jesus and through him, he would would have been the creator of woman. Knowing the anatomy of women inside out, too much information may have caused their sex appeal to lose its flavour on the bedpost over night.